6 C. frontosa

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Hi all,

I was just throwing a bone to the unwashed masses. But people know things.

The situation is this:

I purchased 6 sub-adult but not juvenile C. frontosa from a locally owned store. Cephalic hump development and social structure, yada. 3 months ago, or so.

My plan was to hold them in a 29 breeder for not too long until I found an appropriate tank. Hasn't happened yet and they are growing.

So, in no way does this tank have to be new. The less you scrub, the less it costs, I would think.

A. Does anyone have a 55 with a stand for about $100 or so that I am willing to paint? I would need an LED strip light, but I have all filtration, heat, and everything to transfer, then slowly add to the tank. Less than $200 all in.

B. I know where I can buy a nice 55 for 50 bucks, even drilled for an overflow should one desire. Does anyone build stands anymore? I just need a basic stand with doors, no canopy. But canopy? Who be woodworking on the weekends? Wife escape take many forms. Wives do what wives do which is (???) and everybody else carries on about their business. Lumber costs? Yellawood? My ex wife owns my miter saw and now I'm in an apartment. I guess I could rent a saw, but everyone would hate me. Thoughts from the community.

C. Other ideas? I was just thinking that I need to move these guys (and at least 1 gal) into a 55. But should that not be able to happen it would not be best for the fish to stay in this tank for another 3 months or so. It will stunt them at an early age. I can turn this 29 into anything should anyone be interested in 6 sub-adult C. frontosa. I know what I paid for them and I have been feeding them premium Hikari and frozen food and they have grown in response. I am trying to induce aggression by feeding live ghost shrimp because they were not fed live foods previous to me. I have changed that. I know what I paid and don't imagine that anyone wants to re-imburse me, but serious offers can contact me and I will give you the details on the details.


I do not expect to make money. That was never the intent. This was a post about what is best for 6 fish. If any member can help afford to help me keep them, I will. I would love to put a Altolamprologus Calvus with them. Such exaggerated proportions. That was the plan, but I have to keep them first, or make the decision to let some one else let them grow up. They are teenagers and they need room, like the Beach Boys. Or Steely Dan. Or The Band. Or The REM. Whatever your vintage.

The Who is the greatest Rock and Rock band of all time and their boxed set is titled 30 years of Maximum R&B. Go Figure.

I am serious and I have to make a decision sometime soon. Sooner is better por las pesces.
 

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Well I need a Hero.

But, I'd settle for a deal.

They need to graduate from a 29 breeder to a 55. I've been eyeballing a tank, I just have to find that perfect combo of inexpensive and structurally sound. A 75 would be even more better for the footprint and I have to buy a LED strip light anyway. I run no canopy or glass.

This is the problem.

I'm holding on for a hero till the end of the night, but he's got to be strong and he's got to be fast and he's got to be ready to fight. I need a hero!

I have the fish and they pretty cool. Just getting too big for where they are living so I am trying to make plans.

Help is appreciated. I need a hero! Hahaha
 

Andy W.

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I have a 55 gallon of questionable sturdiness I obtained from an estate sale a few years back.
The stand seems in decent shape, but there is a concern with a crack in the plastic bracing across the middle of it.
It holds water (it is currently my hospital tank/java moss farm), but I would hate to ruin a group of frontosa with a tank mishap.

I will take some pictures tomorrow to let those more informed than I on just how dangerous it is to be full of water.
 

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Oh great. Thanks. I am more interested in the stand than anything else. Maybe you could keep your hospital tank/moss farm if you don't need the stand so much.

Or if you do. C'est la vie.

I hope to find a decent stand that I can sand down and paint flat black myself. Nothing extra shiny. Fish are shiny. Everything else is flat black.

A stand would be killer.
 

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Well, don't get me wrong, I didn't say that I wouldn't have a look if you're up to letting it go.

I just don't personally need the tank. This tank is already drilled, sealed and painted flat black.

I was just going to put it on cinder blocks with a tapestry or something if a stand didn't come along.

Wouldn't be the first time. Just gotta be nice to the bottom and put some scrap wood or something down that you won't see with the tank on it. Substrate and rocks and cichlids can be interesting.

Silicone your big rocks together is another good tip someone gave me and put egg crate down to distribute the weight on the inside of the bottom. Rocks are notoriously heavy and they can be pointy as well. Not always, but the sneaky ones.

You may be a new member but you may have been an aquarist for 50 years. Who know until the next meeting and maybe not even then.

If it is a 55 standard then it should be 12" deep by 4' long. Anything mated can be unmated if you have a will like an iron bear. Maybe I could use the stand and we could cinder block your hospital tank up all nice.

I even have plants and mosses that I can trade you like taxiphylum "flame moss' and taxiphyllum alternans 'Taiwan' also Staurogyne repens that is a beast. Baby tears. Another foreground as well, can't remember the name right now that could make 10 cups today and leave me with plenty. You can't have my red or green crypts, sword, micro grasses, or anything emerging. All this is going on in a 20L with no CO2 supplementation whatsoever.

If you think you might not need it, then please contact me and let me know.

Otherwise it is on cinder blocks by this weekend.
 

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Well gentlemen,

I have found a 55 tank that is drilled, although I won't be using that for now. So, cappity cap, for now, but I can see a sump in the future.

I really need a stand, to have it look not terrible. Or not amateur, at least.

The tank is ready and already painted black and paid for. I picked up 9 cinder blocks and covered them with a crisp sheet from a thrift store for $1.00. The sheet can be made to have a bathtub style pull or a velcro fabric deal, so you never see the blocks. Buckets will fit, but a sump really won't. I've been frugal before.

But I can afford a stand if someone will be reasonable.

There is one for sale on craigslist right now, that I offered the seller 80% of his asking price and he called me an idiot twice and told me it was worth more in the box rather than assembled and displaying that it is assembled correctly. Not a collector's item, mind you, a functional item of inexpensive furniture from Asia that cannot be missing any cams or anything. But 80% was not even good enough to budge this cat. Someone else should hit him up and see how he feels now after sitting on it for a while? So rude, this one. I even suggested that if he absolutely had to had $75 he should have started at $100 but this concept was baffling. What can one man do?

There still needs to be a piece of 4' board procured so the frame is not sitting on concrete blocks but I would rather it be on an actual factual stand. If anyone knows of a 55 that is sturddday and can be painted and sealed by a human person, then that could be awesome and I would be interested.

Surely someone must have an extra, black 55 stand hanging out there that could hold 6 C. frontosta and friends. Plus all the water.

Thanks so much in advance.
 

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I got the MDF with waterproof finish today. Ripped down to the width I need. The blocks are covered by a $1.00 crisply folded sheet from a thrift store.

I have used these in the past and made shower curtain type deals to access underneath or velcro stickies, but they don't last forever. Look nice, though.

There is just not a ton of storage underneath b/c the cinder blocks are so large but they are sturdy as anything. Then topped with $6 worth of black MDF just so the tank is not sitting on the irregular surface of the blocks.

If I could figure out how to take pictures, I would. It's not a bad way to make a rack, should one want. Cinder block is structural as heck. I have 9 under 1 55gal, which is overkill but they are less than $2 each. They could be legos.

We will see how everything turns out when it is filled.

I need to figure out how to post pictures but I have another question.

Buenos noches, bella serra, bon soir, etc.
 
I got the MDF with waterproof finish today. Ripped down to the width I need. The blocks are covered by a $1.00 crisply folded sheet from a thrift store.

I have used these in the past and made shower curtain type deals to access underneath or velcro stickies, but they don't last forever. Look nice, though.

There is just not a ton of storage underneath b/c the cinder blocks are so large but they are sturdy as anything. Then topped with $6 worth of black MDF just so the tank is not sitting on the irregular surface of the blocks.

If I could figure out how to take pictures, I would. It's not a bad way to make a rack, should one want. Cinder block is structural as heck. I have 9 under 1 55gal, which is overkill but they are less than $2 each. They could be legos.

We will see how everything turns out when it is filled.

I need to figure out how to post pictures but I have another question.

Buenos noches, bella serra, bon soir, etc.
All my stand are made out of Concrete blocks, 4x4s 3/4 inch plywood and 1/2 inch insulation foam, but all my tanks are in a fish room.
 

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It's a good inexpensive way to go imo, Walter. As long as you can top them with something so the frame of the tank isn't sitting on rough, concrete surface. I got 4' x 2' MDF from home depot today, ripped, for 6 bucks. It's waterproof and white on one side, black on the other. I cover the stand with stiff sheets and it looks pretty good, IMO. A 55 stand like this will fit a 75 as well, it's just deeper. 18" v/s 12". Block is same size.

Metal racks look super nice and custom stuff is custom, but I'm trying to be the frugal gourmet like Jeff Smith.

Are there instructions somewhere for uploading photpictorials? It's never worked out for me. I would like to post photos, as well.
 
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